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Can’t Talk Podcast Episode 61: Hell Has A Lot of Assholes

Can’t Talk Podcast Episode 61: Hell Has A Lot of Assholes
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This week’s episode of the Can’t Talk Podcast is depressing us both. We talk #gamergate, the harassment of women in gaming, and the violation of women’s privacy online. We would like this type of thing to stop, okay? Also Subbers joins us to talk about seeing MC Frontalot in concert. That part is more fun.

Bell recommends Hatoful Boyfriend (check out her Let’s Play)
Amelia recommends The Magpie Lord
by KJ Charles
Subbers recommends finding an MC Frontalot show in your area
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I did some googling to see if I could find a good, concise article about gamergate and Zoe Quinn. It was… not fun. I suggest just getting the gist of it from someone you know. *shudder*
(image credit: Cover art for MC Frontalot’s new album Question Bedtime, illustration by Bill Sienkiewicz)
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  1. Fluidfyre

    I wonder if there’s a game out there (I like how you called Depression Quest an empathy game) that deals with the harassment women face on a day to day basis. Maybe there should be? Like a choose your own adventure where consequences are similar to what happens to women in games/journalism/online every day. It sounds horrific to make, though. I can even think about what it would be, emails/tweets/etc. all popping up based on decisions etc.

    I completely agree, a lot of men just have no idea. It’s the classic “this doesn’t happen to me” so it doesn’t happen to anyone.

    I know I never go on chat unless I know the people directly in any game. I hide being a woman, completely. I haven’t had a lot happen, but I am terrified of it. I never hear other women talk in any of the games. I don’t want to open myself up to it, life is stressful enough, I don’t need that shit in my games. I end up feeling bad because I’m not ‘representing’ but… I just can’t and don’t want to deal with it if I don’t have to, you know?

    When people question whether empathy/violence results because of video games… I think about all the people I really know who game. And what they are like. Not just these terrible people online who are spewing filth and hate. I think it relates to the online interaction, and the disconnect between seeing who we interact with as people. I think it’s fear of change more than anything. Not corruption. I think it is a wider reflection of our current culture in general, and that games/online etc. provides an outlet for their voice to gain equal footing, that other media doesn’t have necessarily.

  2. >> I think it is a wider reflection of our current culture in general, and that games/online etc. provides an outlet for their voice to gain equal footing, that other media doesn’t have necessarily.

    Sadly and with heavy heart I disagree. I look at Ferguson, and other events like this right in our backyard (well mine, technically, not yours) and I don’t think it’s true that hateful people don’t have a voice in mainstream society. I turn on Fox News (okay. I don’t actually do that but if I did) I could see this level of bullshit on the regular. I saw a clip of a woman on Fox News blaming the young ladies who took nude photos of themselves, not the assaulting assholes who stole those photos without their consent.

    I do think you’re right that “gamer culture” reflects the culture at large. And I’m scared to death that the people I know who are lovely are not as loud and willing a group to be in the fray. I don’t criticize them, but I live in fear because if the vast majority of gamers are sweet, cool people then why do the vast majority of gaming women hide their gender online? Something is fucked the fuck up.

    And that is my feels on that. ILU <3

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